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Just discovered Steve Taylor

Hi,

I just discovered this guy. Way cool Christian new wave stuff circa 1984. MP3 downloads are available on Amazon.com.

Thanks. God Bless.

Aaron.




 
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You MUST buy his tribute album, I Predict A Clone, which features Circle of Dust, Argyle Park and other artists covering Steve Taylor\'s songs. He certainly was one of the best songwriters Christian rock ever had. IMHO, his best albums were:

I Predict 1990
Chagall Guevera
Squint


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Shortly before Steve put all his stuff on Amazon (and iTunes, I think).. he actually put his entire collection online for free at his website.

Steve\'s done some interesting stuff.
He also was in Chagall Guevera, and was a big part in Sixpence None the Richer becoming a big hit with \"Kiss Me\"
(it was his label..and he pushed them hard for 2 years with that song)

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I listened to his 84 album about two weeks ago.Hadn\'t played it in awhile.Defenitly a trip down memory lane.



 
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I\'d add On The Fritz to the list of his best albums, along with the other 3 already mentioned (I Predict 1990, Chagall Guevera, and Squint).

Taylor\'s early new wave was as caustically witty as his later stuff, but it didn\'t age well; hence, the value of the I Predict A Clone tribute album.

In addition to Sixpence None The Richer\'s early mainstream success, Taylor was also responsible for bringing Chevelle and LA Symphony to mainstream audiences, thanks to the influence of the late Bob Briner, whose Roaring Lambs book convinced Taylor that he needed to be salt in the mainstream music business, rather than a big fish in the small pond of Evangelical ghetto subculture.

Taylor\'s songwriting and production work also forwarded the careers of Guardian and The Newsboys, though I\'m not sure it was helpful to the artistry of the latter (they seemed more CCM and radio-friendly than before his involvement, but that was largely their own choice, rather than his).

Peace,

Jeff (the keeper of useless CCM/Christian Rock trivia)




 
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Hi,

Wow guys thanks for the cool info.

Thanks. God Bless.

Aaron.




 
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I miss Steve\'s satirical songwriting the most. Man, I\'d love it if Blacklist Collective covered one of his songs, or better yet, asked him to write a song for them.

FYI, I Predict a Clone was originally slated to be a 2 CD release. According to the September/October 1993 issue of Heaven\'s Metal, the following artists were slated to appear on the release, but didn\'t.

Lust Control (singing \'I Blew Up the Clinic Real Good,\' which they did record on their last demo)
Living Sacrifice (singing \'Over My Dead Body\')
The Prayer Chain
The Throes
Allan Aguirre (scaterd few/ Spyglass Blue) doing a duet with Jyro Xhan (Mortal/ Fold Zandura/ Lucena)

As far as I know, Retroactive Records hasn\'t reissued I Predict a Clone yet. Whose to say that it won\'t contain some unreleased or new covers when they do. I loved it. It was a 1,000 times better than either the Stryper or Petra tribute albums, but I wish it contained more tracks. REX should\'ve filled up the disc. I was disappointed that nobody covered \'Jim Morrison\'s Grave.\' (If I were masterminding something like b(c), you can bet that, just as sure as God made apples, our debut would include a cover of that excellent song. I don\'t normally speak so glowingly of Christian Rock, but for the most part, Taylor was a cut above his peers). I\'m even more surprised that Petra didn\'t cover anything for it, since both they and Taylor shared the same producer for awhile in the early years of their careers (i.e. Jonathan David Brown).




 
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Neal Piwowarski wrote:

I Predict 1990
Chagall Guevera
Squint
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Doh! I didn\'t notice you had already mentioned Chagall Guevera when I posted, Neal :)

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Neal Piwowarski wrote:
I\'m even more surprised that Petra didn\'t cover anything for it, since both they and Taylor shared the same producer for awhile in the early years of their careers (i.e. Jonathan David Brown).


Petra had some shock value in its early days, as they made their foray into harder guitar-rock, then they played it safe in the mid 80s, when Stryper out-did their shock value with leather, spandex, and a California heavy metal sound that had some mainstream appeal. I remember Bob Hartman complaining about the whole spandex-and-leather thing regarding Stryper, sounding just like those old-timer church critics who thought Petra\'s camo and chute pants were somehow sinister. Bob\'s an underrated guitarist, and I really appreciate Petra\'s music, but Bob went down a few points in my book with his criticism of Stryper\'s aesthetic. I\'m not particularly surprised Petra didn\'t step up for the tribute. Taylor was never a particularly \"safe\" artist.

Peace,

Jeff (delivering more useless CCM trivia)

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jaggeddoctrine wrote:
Neal Piwowarski wrote:
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I Predict 1990
Chagall Guevera
Squint
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Doh! I didn\'t notice you had already mentioned Chagall Guevera when I posted, Neal :)

Gary[/quote]

That\'s okay, I ordered your CDs anyway :P

That\'s interesting. I didn\'t know that Bob Hartman ever complained about Stryper\'s look.

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Yes, I noticed yesterday that you were the one who got that a few days ago.
I\'ll be shipping yours out on Monday, btw.
I might throw a few extra tracks in there for you :)

Gary




 
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Thanks! That\'s very kind of you.



 
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Lyrically speaking, as well as sonically... my favorite song is \"Jesus is for Losers\"

If I was driven, driven ahead by some noble ideal
Who took the wheel?
If I was given, given a glimpse of some glorious road
When was it sold?
So caught up in the chase
I keep forgetting my place

Just as I am
I am stiff-necked and proud
Jesus is for losers
Why do I still play to the crowd?
Just as I am
Pass the compass, please
Jesus is for losers
I\'m off about a hundred degrees

If I was groping, groping around for some ladder to fame
I am ashamed
If I was hoping, hoping respect would make a sturdy footstool
I am a fool
Bone-weary every climb
Blind-sided every time

Just as I am
I am needy and dry
Jesus is for losers
The self-made need not apply
Just as I am
In a desert crawl
Lord, I\'m so thirsty
Take me to the waterfall

And if you\'re certain, certain your life is some cosmic mistake
Why do you shake?
And if you\'re certain, certain that faith is some know-nothing mask
Why do you still ask?
They don\'t grade here on a curve
We both know what we deserve

Just as you are
Just a wretch like me
Jesus is for losers
Graced from the blood of a tree
Just as we are
At a total loss
Jesus is for losers
Broken at the foot of the cross




 
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Aramus wrote:
Lyrically speaking, as well as sonically... my favorite song is \"Jesus is for Losers\"

If I was driven, driven ahead by some noble ideal
Who took the wheel?
If I was given, given a glimpse of some glorious road
When was it sold?
So caught up in the chase
I keep forgetting my place

Just as I am
I am stiff-necked and proud
Jesus is for losers
Why do I still play to the crowd?
Just as I am
Pass the compass, please
Jesus is for losers
I\'m off about a hundred degrees

If I was groping, groping around for some ladder to fame
I am ashamed
If I was hoping, hoping respect would make a sturdy footstool
I am a fool
Bone-weary every climb
Blind-sided every time

Just as I am
I am needy and dry
Jesus is for losers
The self-made need not apply
Just as I am
In a desert crawl
Lord, I\'m so thirsty
Take me to the waterfall

And if you\'re certain, certain your life is some cosmic mistake
Why do you shake?
And if you\'re certain, certain that faith is some know-nothing mask
Why do you still ask?
They don\'t grade here on a curve
We both know what we deserve

Just as you are
Just a wretch like me
Jesus is for losers
Graced from the blood of a tree
Just as we are
At a total loss
Jesus is for losers
Broken at the foot of the cross




Great song, awesome lyrics. My favorite track from Squint.




 
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Squint\'s definitely a masterpiece for Taylor.

I don\'t think there\'s a bad track on it, and nearly all of them should be on a \"best of\", being so poignant and witty.

Peace,

Jeff




 
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There are still some steve taylor songs available for download


http://www.onfritz.com/mp3/

Don\'t forget to check out \"Good Girl\" in the \"other\" section there.
It was written by Steve, and recorded by Lisa Whelchel, who was Blair Warner on the show \"Facts of Life\"

I remember seeing the Whelchel RECORD in the Christian bookstores way back when, but I expected it to be standard cheesy CCM for the time. This song actually has some decent pop synth work that you\'d expect Steve to do back then.
I was reading that her LP (1984) was nominated for a Grammy.. so this is probably Steve\'s first work that was Grammy nominated ;)

[img]http://i16.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/c2/17/38a2_12.JPG[/img]




 
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OMG, I remember that!

I actually saw her live once...it was before she released a CD, I think. She was at the Pisgah Church of the Nazarene. Nice young lady.

Now, I\'ll have to go look that up...LOL

Peace,

Jeff




 
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You know you are reading an industrial message board when Lisa Whelchel is mentioned.. LOL

Gary

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